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Swimming in the Dead-Sea
The lowest point on land is the Dead Sea that borders Israel, the West Bank and Jordan. It's 420 meters below sea level.

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Sat Apr 09, '11 04:22PM
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Uploaded By: Avi Hirschfield

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Aperture Value: f//9.1 Shutter Speed Value: 1/332 sec
ISO: 100 Focal Length: 17 mm
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Date/Time: 09/04/11 16:22:06 Exposure Bias: -0.67 EV
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Authored by: Bob Miller on Wednesday, April 27 2011 @ 02:14 PM EDT Swimming in the Dead-Sea

Nice wide angle shot of a place that not many of us have a chance to visit. Seems it could use a slight CCW rotation .

On a side note, the clouds tend to weight the scene to the right. I have to deal with this alot. Here in AZ there might be only one screwy cloud sitting in a place that off-sets the comp. I don't often have all day to sit in one location and just wait. So-

What do we do? Be true to the time and place and not be happy? Not post it? Drop in a different sky from a previously shot image? This may be a personal issue but your image might give the opportunity to get some feelings from some of the other TPN members.


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BOB thanks for the comment and yes it could do with a little twist But I also noticed a few dust bunnies ;(

As for PS a big NOOOOOOOOOO.


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Authored by: Patrick Flynn on Wednesday, April 27 2011 @ 08:55 PM EDT Swimming in the Dead-Sea

I have never been to the Dead Sea so I appreciate seeing these. I do figure that someday I'll get there and these photos are not dissuading me!

As for post processing and Bob's inquiry, I am very liberal there. From a standpoint of literal purism, I PP almost without conscience. I do aim for realism in my renditions and I almost never go for an effect that I didn't envision at the moment of capture. But I am very willing to "see" something which isn't exactly there, particularly if the components can be cobbled together on the scene itself.

I have dropped a different sky into an image only once or twice, but in general would sooner go that direction than post something that I felt was significantly inferior in a way that I could readily change.

This does not seem like an opinion that will be popular with Avi! But thanks for providing the discussion forum for that with this image.

Edited on Wednesday, April 27 2011 @ 08:59 PM EDT by Patrick Flynn
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Authored by: Andrew Brown on Thursday, April 28 2011 @ 04:05 AM EDT Swimming in the Dead-Sea

mmmm, a nice shot of somewhere I still have to visit, I like the wide angled effect, but would have cropped more of the sky out.. 

I guess dropping in a different sky is very much a personal thing, the danger though is that one then needs to look at any relections on the water, because if one doesn't address that, sooner or later a sharp eyed critic would pick that up... I wouldn't do it..



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Authored by: Ruud van Ruitenbeek on Friday, April 29 2011 @ 09:16 AM EDT Swimming in the Dead-Sea

I want to see the shot of somebody reading while floating in the Dead Sea. I did that when I was there and it is truly possible, and weird. Just don't forget not to open your eyes under water!

I agree with the comment about the sky and the, by now age old, controversy it raises. I have no problem with making some adjustments, but putting in a completeley new sky from a different location or day goes a bit too far for me personally. Howerver, I would not object to someone doing that as long as they were honest about it.

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Authored by: Tricia Kennedy on Friday, April 29 2011 @ 07:22 PM EDT Swimming in the Dead-Sea

Hello Avi - I really like this image and, while I agree with Bob about it needing a slight rotation, I disagree about the sky.  The fact that there is more cloud on the right of the image than the left doesn't bother me at all.  This image says to me that this is exactly how it was at the scene and I think there is plenty of deep blue on the left of the sky which, in my humble opinion, balances out the cloud on the right.  Did you use a polariser on the sky?  Where I think you might give this image more impact is to take a slice off the bottom of the image so there is far less sea, which is not nearly as interesting as the sky and the swimmers.  The sky on the thumbnail drew me right into the image and then I saw the swimmers.  Very nice - makes me want to visit there.

Replacing skies?  Tut, tut - how could anyone do such a thing . . . !

Avi - I hope this helps.  

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Authored by: Patrick Flynn on Saturday, April 30 2011 @ 12:13 AM EDT @ Tricia

"how could anyone do such a thing....!"

Same way an author is capable of writing fiction - simply start out with the goal to create entertainment. Journalists don't do fiction, but not all writers are journalists. The exact same is true with photographers!

Thanks again Avi for "hosting" this diversionary discussion. I certainly respect your approach to minimal post processing.

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Ruud I would suggest NOT GETTING  your eye's near the water as it sting's/burn's like crazy.

Thank's to all on your opinion's and idea's it has been very interesting and may give me an idea for something in the future <(;0

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